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hey, read your answer about you being an anime only! i promise i'm not trying to pick a fight, but if you're open to discussing this a little: considering it took endo years to get to this point, it's unlikely we'll be able to get a full S3 next year since there's probably not enough manga chapters. will you be reading the manga then? ps: the manga isn't exactly. spoilers. it's the original story, no?
I don't think I'll be reading it, no. I mean, I can't be sure, my resolve may break at some point and I may indulge, but as I've explained why I'm doing it that way, I plan on continuing watching the anime first and then reading the respective manga chapters.
If I may be a little more personal here, this past year I've been stuck on a job that, while not unpleasant or demanding or exhausting in any way, it was far from fulfilling. This job's contract ends at the end of July and if I'm lucky, I may actually get a much more fulfilling job this September and be more proactive in it in general, so I'll have more time filled with stuff I like. Last fall it was Spy x Family that filled a lot of that hole, and I've been stuck all these months without that nor a job I enjoy. So I'm thinking, if I get that job I want, I'll have less unfulfilled time and thus less dependence on the show (not that I'll love the story or characters any less), so it may be easier for me to wait for ten months again for new content.
As for your p.s., by anime-only standards, yes it is a spoiler. If you go to the cinema to watch a film that was inspired by a book, you wouldn't tell someone what happens at the end if you knew they haven't read the book. That's spoilers. The book is still the original story, the film is still an adaptation, but by revealing a part of the story that a film watcher doesn't know, you're spoiling it for them - and no film watcher is obligated to read the whole book and know the whole content just to enjoy the film. And while Spy x Family is quite popular, it's not common knowledge popular. Saying "Jesus dies on the cross and then gets resurrected" isn't a spoiler for the bible or any film inspired by it because it's a millennia-old story that even many non-Christians know.
When it comes to the manga vs anime debate on what's spoilers and what's not, it can get a little tricky cause you have snobs and purists on both sides, which is why I prefer to stay away from the fandom instead of engaging and then complaining about getting spoiled, because I will get spoiled and it will be my fault. My one request is that, if someone reblogs any posts of mine, to not add any details about stuff that happens in manga chapters that haven't been animated. That's all. But no-one is obligated to read or engage with my stuff, a lot don't even see it, I'm not demanding anyone tag their spoilers on their own posts or complaining to those that don't, I recognize my own responsibility in curating my experience and avoiding spoilers and take the necessary measures to do so. So I don't see where's the problem with me, in my personal blog, referring to stuff that hasn't happened in the anime yet as "manga spoilers".
I understand you wanted a discussion, not a fight, but honestly it's a tricky issue, and I'd really really rather not get into the bad side of a purist, whether they're a manga or an anime purist. And such a discussion can be derailed very easily, so while you're welcome to discuss it with me in a civil manner, I will stop it if I feel it can get out of hand.
I'm not mad or upset at you or anything. I'm just a little wary because I know how toxic fandoms can get, especially when they hold some very passionate beliefs about what's "right" and what's "wrong" in the way other people consume fictional media.
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I couldn’t get the idea of the polycule dancing at Raeda wedding so polycule dancing at Raeda wedding. No title, probably gonna give it one when I post it in ao3, but I’m probably going to write the Camila/Darius dance first because that’s in theory what this started as but somehow I ended up with an Eda POV.
Anyway Raeda, Dariraeda, Eda&Darius, also Eda has a big crush on Camila but Camila isn’t part of the polycule yet is alright she would be eventually.
There’s also Lumity but the kids appear for like one scene so is not really more than a mention.
"Dance with me."
Darius looks at her as uninterested as he can, but Eda hasn't been expecting much more so it doesn't exactly discourage her.
"Come on goop boy, dance with your bestie."
"You're not my bestie."
Eda ignores him, instead she grabs his arm and does her best attempt at pulling him out of the chair.
"Is my wedding, you should be nice to me."
Darius groans in response, but allows her to drag him to the dance floor, only looking mildly annoyed with the situation, Eda takes that as a victory. They stop just close enough to the center of the salon to not be on the center of the salon, from where Eda can see Raine dancing with her mother but wouldn't catch their attention or hear them. She turns to Darius, who gives her a bored look, Eda pays no mind to that and grabs one of his hands, intertwining their fingers. Darius sighs but allows her, placing his free hand on her shoulder, low enough to touch part of her arm. Because of that, Eda has no choice but to hold his waist. Now in position, they begin a slow pace. Darius refuses to look anything else than annoyed, but he is dancing with her so she doesn't take much issue with that fact.
"One would think you're the dancing type."
"I don't mind dancing."
"What's the problem then? Me?"
Darius gives her a look.
"Take a guess."
Rude.
"You're a horrible bestie," says Eda, purely to annoy him.
"We're not...!" Darius sighs, but doesn't continue the complain, probably branding that topic as a lost cause. "Shouldn't you be dancing with Raine? Or your parents if that's out of the way."
"I did dance with my parents, I will let you know, and I don't need to do it again."
"One of your childs?"
"Stop trying to run away from me."
"I'm not, despite my best judgement I'm dancing with you."
So rude.
"I appreciate it, just so you know."
Darius makes a sound of acknowledgement, but doesn't say anything. Eda lets it be, happy with just dancing in silence for a while, besides they don't usually just enjoy each other company in peace, so this is actually nice. They spin a few times, not putting that much effort in the dancing part of the dance, mostly just moving around.
"And Camila?"
The question takes her by surprise, mostly because, again, they have been in silence for a while (not that long of a while, but pretty long considering is them); but also due to the random nature of it, at least from Eda's perspective.
"What about her?"
"Couldn't you be dancing with her?" Darius turns around, fixing his sight on the children's table. "Keeping an eye on the kids all night must be boring."
Eda gives that a thought. Darius is probably right and Eda wouldn't mind dancing with Camila, even if only for a while, but the woman is a little shy in some aspects (or maybe Eda went a little too hard on the flirting, but she had toned it down a little), also she offered to stay with the kids, rejecting a seat in some other table. That said, Lilith is there too, it wouldn't hurt for Camila to have some fun for a few minutes away from the kids, without taking into account that Lilith couldn't be that good of a company anyway, the little witches were probably more entertaining than her.
"I guess I could," she says finally, looking back at Darius. "But then I would have to leave you with Raine so you don't go back to sit with an ugly face on your expression."
"How sweet."
"But you must know that you can't kiss, ok? Is my wedding, I call dibs today."
Darius looks at her like she's dumb, but that's nothing new. "The fuck are you talking about?"
"My wedding my rules, I call dibs today."
"Fine, whatever. Would you go ask her? I will like for our time together to end already."
"I love you too."
With that Eda moves away from him, giving Darius one last glance before walking in direction to the kids table. Most of the small ones are there, the majority still a little annoyed over being put on a table labeled 'children's table'. Surprisingly Luz is still there, Eda thought she would take the opportunity to dance with her girlfriend, but both of them seem content with just sitting there talking with their friends. King, for his part, is mostly spending his time bothering Hooty, who is hanging from Lilith's back as is usual nowadays
"You all here?" asks Eda as way of salute, capting everyone attention. "I thought you two would be dancing."
She directs the comment towards Luz and Amity, who exchange glances.
"Amity had an accident."
Eda frowns. "What...?"
"With her new shoes."
Oh.
The minor of the Blights looks slightly embarrassed over the topic, so Eda considers leaving it at that, but Lilith chooses to answer the question she didn't ask.
"I checked her feet already and she should be fine, but dancing is probably a bad idea."
"With shoes," says Luz.
"I'm not dancing barefoot."
"Sweet potato..."
"No."
"And what brings you here?" asks Camila, changing the topic.
"Yeah, shouldn't the bride be dancing?" That's Willow.
"I thought you were with Darius." And that's Hunter. "I believe I saw you two dancing."
"Can't stand him that much," answers Eda, obtaining an angry look from the kid, is almost cute. "So I lend him Raine for a while, also I'm here to steal Camila."
"Me?" Who else is named Camila? "I assumed you would want to dance with Luz."
"Why would Luz want to dance with me?"
"Why wouldn't I want to dance with you? Is not that like, a thing here? Dancing with your kids and all that."
Eda places her sight on King, who is now stuffing his mouth with food while watching the conversation. "King, do you want to dance with me?"
King turns to her. "No, why would I?"
Eda points at him, as a way to make her point to Luz. Really, who likes dancing with their parents? Humans are so weird.
"You two are the worst." The fact that Luz crosses her arms and proceeds to look disappointed is even more weird.
"Whatever you say." Eda turns to Camila. "Would you dance with me?"
Camila seems to think it over, looking over the kids while she does. Is probably Gus giving her the tumbs up, Willow enthusiastic nodding and Luz not very subtle push that convinces her to stand up.
"Alright, I guess I could dance a little."
"For the ones that can't," says Amity, prompting a very expected 'you could if...' from Luz. Amity doesn't let her finish. "I'm not dancing barefoot!"
Camila laughs at their antics while following Eda to the center of the salon, giving her a warm smile once they are in position.
"I'm a bit rusty, I will let you know."
"Aren't we all?" says Eda, holding Camila by the waist with one hand and passing her prosthetic arm over her shoulders. They end up standing very close because of that, moving slow at the rhythm of the also slow music. Being taller than Camila, the human ends up holding her purely by the waist. Is not the most conventional dancing position but it will do.
"So how are you doing in your happy night? Luz told me you two have this coming for a while."
"Luz is a tattle," says Eda, before remembering she's talking to Camila. "With love, of course, a lovely tattle." If nothing else, her dumb rant makes Camila laugh. "But, um... fine. I mean, happy and all that. Being finally together and all that."
Camila smiles wider at that, Eda isn't all that sure why.
"I have to say, weddings here aren't as different from human weddings as I thought they would be."
"Really? I was under the impression human weddings were shorter."
Camila shrugs, Eda feeling the movement more intensely thanks to the cercany and the arm she has over her.
"I mean, it depends on the wedding, it can also be longer."
Sounds logical, thinks Eda, is not like she has been to that many human weddings.
"I could see why someone might like a long wedding," she says, scanning the room in search of her partners, "but I don't think something too long would be for me."
"Well, it also depends on cultures and traditions." Right, humans have lots of those.
Finally she caughts sight of Raine and Darius, dancing together as she hope, in a less central part of the salon. She returns her attention to Camila, catching her companion looking in the same direction she was just a moment ago, before Camila too returns her attention to her. They stare at each other a second before Eda speaks.
"Sorry, got distracted."
"Is alright, I get it."
Eda tries not to blush.
"Just checking on them," she explains, very subtly starting to move towards the par. "Have to make sure Darius did go dance with Raine like I told him."
Camila smiles.
"Of course."
Eda isn't sure how to interpret that, so she doubles down.
"Really, otherwise that bit..." For some reason, swearing in front of Camila feels a little weird. "That bastard may return to his table if I don't keep an eye on him."
They are closer to them now, halfway there.
"I get it, really, I had a friend like that in college. Sort of."
Eda doesn't asks what 'college' is, neither does she comment that she and Darius aren't exactly friends (even if Raine, among others, disagree in that aspect). She simply stands him and nothing more, and is mutual. But Camila's words catch her curiosity, so instead she asks "What happened to them? Your friend, I mean."
"Oh, we grew apart after me and Luz changed city," answers Camila, giving the other two a minor glance. "Granted, we weren't the closest after college, we ended up working in different places after all."
Eda considers that, doesn't sound much different from her and Darius, they too grew apart at some point. To be fair, Eda ended up losing contact with plenty of people throughout her life, but apparently Darius did too so in this case is not all her, which for some reason makes her feel better. She doesn't bear all the blame there, is a comforting idea; unlike Raine, with who she indisputably ruined things, but that's probably not the type of thoughts you have at your wedding, so Eda lets that train of thought go.
"I get it, your human place, well, the Isles aren't that big." The Isles had always feel big to Eda, but is where she lives, and she knows the human world is a lot bigger.
Before Camila can say anything, Raine, with who they have finally catch up, speaks.
"Hi to you two, long time no see." Raine smile reaches their eyes. "Having a good time?"
Eda considers saying 'is our wedding, you dummy' but Camila answers first.
"Certainly, but I should probably return with the kids soon."
Funny, considering she doesn't actually have to.
"That's not..."
"Lilith have it..."
There's a moment of silence while she and Darius exchange glances, like deciding who should speak. It should be her, obviously.
"Don't interrump me, is my wedding."
Darius groans and besides him Raine lets out a sigh, clearly intuying were this is going. Rather than answer her, Darius looks at Raine.
"You know, is never too early to have second thoughts."
Eda drags Camila closer to them, just close enough so she can stomp one of Darius feet.
"Ah!"
"Fuck off!"
Raine sighs, again, looking as done with them as they can manage.
"I should break up with both of you, Titan knows why I don't."
Were they alone instead of having public, Eda would have answered 'because you love me' but alas, it can't be.
"Sorry, no take backs with me." She glances back at Camila, who has been silent during the exchange.
The woman looks mildly uncomfortable, Eda isn't sure if is because of their banter or because their relationship may still feel a little unusual to her, based on that thing Luz explained some time ago, something something humans are weird something something not that common in the human world, or something like that, Eda didn't pay much attention, she was busy thinking how many chances she had with Camila... Or maybe Eda charm is finally working and Camila is simply falling for her... Ok, probably not, but a woman can dream. She's pretty sure, if nothing else, that Camila likes her at the very least, and she also seems to like Raine... and Darius for some reason; is not that implausible of a dream.
Whatever, Eda is putting her money on the banter, she pressumes their pseudo-flirting is a little uncomfortable for an outsider (see? The problem is that that status hasn't changed yet).
"Anyway, Lilith probably has the kids covered," she says, trying to reassure her dance partner, "and they have her covered too, probably."
Her words managed to make Camila smile.
"It takes more than seven kids for that," says Raine. Eda would feel tempted to defend her sister honor, but is Raine wedding too so.
Camila smile gets wider, in that way she does that looks far too warm and soft, it makes Eda mildly uncomfortable (is not fair, Eda is at disadvantage here).
"In any case, I should probably leave you so you can dance with your partner, the married couple shouldn't spend too many time apart."
Maybe, Eda wouldn't mind she staying, but she gets her point, she is missing Raine a little even if they are besides each other. That doesn't mean Camila has to return to her seat.
"You could dance with Darius, I'm sure Raine is already tired of him."
"I'm pretty sure she's tired of you."
Raine sighs, before looking at Camila.
"Sure, you can take him from me. Lilith is probably fine, there's no need for you to worry." Yeah, Eda is pretty sure Raine wouldn't mind even if she isn't.
"Lilith can't handle herself," comments Darius, and Eda really should start defending her sister, but then Raine and Darius disengage which gives her the paute to do the same and, well, what Lilith doesn't know doesn't hurt her.
She takes Raine hand, pulling them towards her and envolving their waist with her free arm. "Hi pretty, come here often?"
Raine laughs and besides them she hears Darius groan, which makes it even better. She spares him and Camila a glance, noticing with some amusement the difference in stature, something that for some reason she never notices that much when is she and her, or her with Raine. Maybe she needs an outside perspective to remember they are both on the short side (Luz keeps insisting she's the one on the taller side, but Eda doesn't believe her).
"What are you thinking?" Raine's words catch her attention and she looks back at them.
Since telling them she's thinking how small they are would only annoy them, she opts for something else.
"Nothing important," Eda says. "Lots of things to think about today, so I'm a little distracted." Is not a lie, Eda has been a little distracted the whole day.
"I hope so." Raine gets closer, passing both of their arms around her neck. "You happy?"
"Very."
"And very distracted."
"Not that much, I just…" Eda thinks her words. "There's so much happening with, you know, I'm just glad we're together."
Raine smiles.
"Having cursi thoughts?"
Eda hits them with her hip, softly.
"Shut up, we just got married, of course I'm..." Eda looks for the word, doesn't find it. "Feelly?"
"Feelly?"
"Or whatever the word is, I can't remember it."
"Emotive?"
"There is it."
If their expression is anything to go by, Raine is having a really, really hard time not bursting into laughter.
"Don't you dare laugh at me, I can also have second thoughts, I also have a receipt."
She has to give them credit, Raine is trying very hard.
"Sure."
"I forgot the word, ok? Also, I was telling you all about my emotions and happiness and now you're laughing at me."
"I'm not laughing."
"And you better not."
The stare at each other, then is Eda who burst into laughter. She can't help it, Raine face did it for her; and because she's laughing Raine wastes no time in laughing too.
"Don't laught! I was serious earlier!" Is hard talking while laughing as hard as she is, but she manages.
"Serious with what? The 'feelly'?"
"You bastard!" Eda face hurts with how much she's smiling, but at least her laughter has subdued a little, unlike Raine, who is still laughing far too much of something that wasn't that funny. "I swear, I'm going to divorce you and what would you do when the reason ends up being 'they hurt my feelyings'?"
Raine just laughs harder.
"We're suppossed to be dancing here, what image of the married couple are you giving?" Eda tries to look serious, but with Raine laughter and her own she can't take the smile out of her face. "You're lucky I love you!"
At last Raine seems to calm down a little, their face red. Now they also have a big, dumb smile on their face, just like her. They stare at each other, close enough to feel the other breath. Is nice.
"So we dancing or not?" Because even if Eda like how they're right now, is not exactly dancing and she wouldn't mind a dance.
"I don't know, I'm not feelly it."
"I swear I'm divorcing you!"
#toh#the owl house#eda clawthorne#darius deamonne#camila noceda#raine whispers#the polycule#i'm not tagging spoilers because i don't reference anything from s3#the rest of s3 will probably destroy my dynamic but whatever#also sorry for my english i'm pretty sure i'm getting better at it#my writing
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Season 4, Episode 4 - Mr Pigeon 72
I have no idea where to start. This episode has some good things and some extremely stupid.
Marinette isn't still completely fine, but I prefer when she deals with it through being hyperactive than being a whining crybaby.
I know people don't agree with me, but personally I don't buy the whole revealing identity to Alya. It's not a problem with Alya herself, I would say the same about every single character who is not named Alix Kubdel at this point of the story. I haven't written anything in my post about Gang of Secrets, because I thought it would be undone in some way at the start of the next episode. The creators did nothing to explain why revealing identity of Ladybug to anyone was super dangerous and would result in a catastrophe in seasons 1-3 and the first two episodes of S4, but it's magically fine in episode 3. Only Alix made sense to me, as she will be the rabbit Miraculous holder, so she is destined to discover identities of everyone sooner or later and Marinette is aware of that. While it's not necessary to learn identity of anyone to other temporary Miraculous wielders, including Alya. Also that reveal hasn't been foreshadowed in season 3, while the show usually does it, especially if it's about something as important as that! More, in late S3, it's been shown that Alya still can't resist to not talking about Marinette's love life with Nino, despite she asked her to not do it. Now the girl, who is overly excited about superhero stuff, has no problems with even accidental revealing anything to Nino or someone else. She's even "stealing" Bunnix line that she's great at keeping secrets (sorry but you, the creators, haven't shown us that she's indeed is before!). This is why I think that reveal hasn't been planned before they started writing season 4.
But okay, I can deal with it, even if I don't buy it, but things these happened in Mr. Pigeon 72 are even more inconsistent with previous seasons. I have been worried about it, so it doesn't surprised me. For some reason Guardian related-things that have been kept in a secret before from everyone minus current Guardian and the future Guardian, are now fine being done in front of Kwamis (remember, they haven't been allowed to learn about making potions before!) and a civilian who is just a temporal Miraculous holder, not someone who is supposed to be trained to be a new Guardian. You can say - new Guardian, new rules, but why? Marinette has been portrayed as someone who respect authorities, she has never questioned any Fu's rules. It wasn't even said in the episode that she's going to change the rules. I hate that the writers don't even bother to explain us what's going on. Probably they don't bother about consistency, they think the audience is going to be too excited about Alya knowing Ladybug's identity and helping Marinette to question anything about it? How Alya could be allowed to learn the Guardian secrets? She is just best friend of the protagonist, she is not one of the main characters to get that special treatment. I makes zero sense to me. Especially since Su-Han will be introduced in episode 6 and he should help Marinette with understanding the Grimoire, Alya isn't necessary here for any other reason than fanservice.
In my opinion the way how they discovering how to make charms that protects from akumasitation was the most stupid thing that happened this season and one of the most in the whole show. Marinette who is the new Guardiand and portrayed as someone extreme intelligent and creative couldn't find the solution for days, but Alya with zero training magically discovered it in a few hours at worst. And when she told her the solution in not even very clear way, Ladybug did it immediately with no effort. That was so anticlimactic. At least the animation was fine, but other aspects of it was just a big disappointment, and I was looking forward for it. Thank goodness it's just the beginning of the season, I hope later important events of the season will be better written and portrayed.
Also I find it absurd that Rena Rough is walking with a page from the Grimoire like it's just an ordinary book and she's talking about it in front of a random civilian, like things that are written there are nothing special. She or Ladybug are not careful about Miraculous lore anymore. Not to mention that they are giving hints that Rena is very close to Ladybug in public, suspiciously close. And now with them being too careless, that's not hard to suspect that Rena Rouge is someone very close to Ladybug, maybe even as a civilian. Shadow Moth knows Rena Rouge's identity, and it's easy to him to learn who is Alya Cesaire's best friend if he doesn't know it yet, after all his son is in the class with her. Marinette has always been super careful and serious about her duties before, why that sudden change with zero explanation? It's just very out of character to her in my opinion.
I didn't like the akuma battle either, it's now the worst fight of the season in my opinion. It was so short and felt very lazy. I only liked that Plagg got some action and interaction with Ladybug (though it should be suspicious for her that he managed to reach to her that fast). He should be aware now that Alya knows Ladybug's identity but he acts like nothing happened. Not a word about it being unfair towards his kid or something, weird.
Thankfully the rest of the episode is generally more or less fun to me. It was nice to see Marinette and Kagami interacting again. I loved Kagami in the episode, although it was a bit weird to me that she isn't seemed to be affected by her breaking up with Adrien. Like her crush was very shallow, so she managed to recover herself from it very quickly. While it's been shown that Luka is hurt, despite Lukanette always seemed to be much more shallow than Adrigami in my opinion. But maybe it's because she's so down to earth, so being less emotional makes sense for her character. I liked how her attitude was opposite to Marinette's hyperactive: "No, I don't want to be in a relationship with Adrien again, he disappointed me, just let me live!!!". And she's another character who said that Marinette and Adrien are made for each other. I'm not surprised that Kagami sees it now when she tried to be with him and that didn't work. She's observant, sees more than many other characters. It seems she's an Adrienette shipper now. It's also good that her issue with Adrien wasn't resolved that easily and too fast. They need more time, but I'm sure they will be friends again.
So, we've gotten shirtless Adrien. I remember seeing a tweet of Thomas in which he answered to a question if there will be a beach episode and he said we will get something similar. I wonder if he meant this episode. Oh, they just remembered that Adrien is supposed to be allergic to feathers. It seems Adrien has allergic reactions only when it's somewhat related to the plot. When it's not, he's completely fine.
The reference to the famous Umbrella Scene™ out of nowhere in a random episode? It probably means something. I can see "reverse crush" supporters interpreting it as a proof to their theory, especially since this time Adrien did something clumsy and Marinette is laughing because of it (actually both of them). Or maybe because it's the first episode of season 4 with Marinette and Adrien interactions, they decided to be that much gracious for Adrienette fans, to compensate lack of it in the first three episodes. Oh wow, Marinette managed to propose spending more time together to Adrien without stuttering. Probably because she has done it spontaneously. Marinette is the most nervous when she's planning and thinking what could go wrong too much. This time she had no time to it, so it went more smoothly. It's like they building development of their relationship, but it didn't seem in Guiltrip (that's episode 11 chronologically) that something changed.
Seeing screenshot above, you can easily imagine how great friends they could be, being very comfortable around each other and laughing together, if not Marinette's anxiety. We need Adrienette development so much to get more moments like this.
Oh and I just realized that it's also one of the veeeeery few episodes with no real Ladynoir at all (the only other one I remember is Style Queen). So if there was no Adrienette it would be an episode without interactions of two main characters at all (although we almost got Ladrien). It could be another reason why this episode is that nice for Adrien and Marinette ship.
After seeing overly excited Marinette dancing in the rain, I can't believe she can manage completely give up on Adrien. It doesn't look like this at all.
Also we've seen three photos of Adrien wearing THAT scarf. It could not mean nothing different that foreshadowing that he's going to discover the truth about it somewhere this season. But I have no idea what Ladybug's mask with shining eyes could mean.
I don't know what to think about the episode. Despite absurd Guardian-related things, I still liked it much more than Gang of Secrets, but I have no idea if I generally enjoyed it more than other episodes of this season or not. At least it's an episode without stupid drama, which is amazing.
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I'm currently less active on social media, because my internet connection is very unstable, it often works very slowly to the point I'm not patient enough to visit Tumblr. Also I block spoiler tags again, because I don't want to see spoilers from the episodes those are going to be released very soon, as I feel that they reveal too much to me once more. We're currently in a marathon of the new episodes and since watching them is the more more enjoyable, the less I know about them, I decided to try avoid spoilers as much as I can. The only bad thing is that I can't be read discussions about the new episodes, reblog them and adding something from me until Optigami will be aired.
#miraculous ladybug#ml mr. pigeon 72#ml season 4#ml spoilers#ml spoiler#chicoriii about S4 episodes#ml season 4 spoilers#chicoriii#original post
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